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Does the Bible say we are God?

Someone told me this week that the Bible says that we are God! I thought about whether I should even bother to respond to a statement that, frankly, is the craziest thing I have heard in some time! However, the Lord has placed a burden on my heart to respond.  Let us look at the verse he used to support this. The meanings of the Hebrew words that I will show are those found in the Hebrew dictionary of Strong’s Concordance, which is a standard reference work for Biblical Hebrew.

Gen 1:26-27 “And God said, Let us make man in Our image, after Our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.”

The word “image” is used several times, and Hebrew word that is used is:

צלם (tseh’-lem)
From an unused root meaning to shade; a phantom, that is, (figuratively) illusion, resemblance; hence a representative figure, especially an idol: – image, vain shew.

This word is used when describing something that looks like something else. For example, a life-like statue of a person resembles a person but is not an exact copy of that person. Another example is a picture of a person on TV, which is an illusion that looks like that person but is not the actual person. Likewise, in the context that is used in these verses, we look like God, but are not God.

The following verse warns against believing that we are God, or can become God.

Gen 3:4-5 “And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.”

In Gen 3:5, the Hebrew word used for “gods” is the same Hebrew word used for “God”, which is “Elohim”, which refers to the Creator, as this is the same word used for God in Gen 1:1 “In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.” Gen 3:4-5 are uttered by the serpent, who is Satan, who is a deceiver. It is written: Rev 12:9 “And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” It is therefore Satan who lies to us by saying that we can be God.  

I say to those of you who believe in this lie of Satan: Repent! Turn away from your sin, reject sin, and choose to obey God! Believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ: Jesus Christ paid the price of our sins, so that we are saved from the punishment for our rebellion against God, which is everlasting torment in Hell!  

John 3:16-19 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved. He that believeth on Him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.”

The opportunity to do this is closing! You do not know when you will die, and after you die you will be judged, and then the opportunity to repent will have closed. It is written:

Heb 9:27-28 “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for Him shall He appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”

God bless,
George

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  1. I just wanted to give you the scriptures that do say we are gods and that may be where this person got the idea but didn’t have the exact scripture to quote. I used the KJV but if you go to bible.crosswalk.com you can look it up in more versions, as I have, and see the proof…

    John 10:34-35 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

    and

    Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

    Hope that helps others to understand where that comes from, there are many other verses that back that up as well! It is because once we except Christ into our hearts and follow Him & keep His commandments then we are adopted children of God and part of His family. Once we are “born again” in Spirit at the resurrection into God’s family, we become gods, ie. like if Mr Smith adopts Joe Marks he becomes a Smith.

    God Bless!

    Comment by Denise | June 5, 2008 | Reply

    • Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”

      As Denise says, we ARE gods, children of God, but we are mortal until we accept salvation, and are ADOPTED into the inheritance of Christ, the true God.

      Ephesians 1:5 he predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will–

      and

      Romans 8:14-17 14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. 15 The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship.[f] And by him we cry, “Abba,[g] Father.” 16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.

      Comment by biffbiffson | October 3, 2011 | Reply

    • Cut your self off from the physical world,made of matter that is created via conciousness,and accept we create our own reality,Jesus did say”STILL THY MIND AND KNOW THAT I!AM GOD”meaning still your mind and know that YOU are god.You are what you choose,we live the lives we choose,we are free spirits of god having a human experience. All the distractions the government put out there, t.v. drugs,alcohol,jobs,money and celebs are all there to distract you from knowing who you really are.You are the ones with all the power you just need to believe it.They (he)the beast tries every-way possible to keep you from salvation, don’t fall for it be who you where meant to be and accept Jesus as your savour and learn to love thy self then you can love others. That is what we’re here for,to wake people up & spread the word,its coming to an end people,its time to pick sides for this is a war off good and evil,i Know which side I’m on do you?God bless you all and know that I am he, i am the one all there is and all there ever will be….. Say that to your self Eveready and night .I love you all,my brothers ans sisters.love thy self!peace……

      Comment by dannylee725dannylee | December 2, 2012 | Reply

    • Cut your self off from the physical world,made of matter that is created via conciousness,and accept we create our own reality,Jesus did say”STILL THY MIND AND KNOW THAT I!AM GOD”meaning still your mind and know that YOU are god.You are what you choose,we live the lives we choose,we are free spirits of god having a human experience. All the distractions the government put out there, t.v. drugs,alcohol,jobs,money and celebs are all there to distract you from knowing who you really are.You are the ones with all the power you just need to believe it.They (he)the beast tries every-way possible to keep you from salvation, don’t fall for it be who you where meant to be and accept Jesus as your savour and learn to love thy self then you can love others. That is what we’re here for,to wake people up & spread the word,its coming to an end people,its time to pick sides for this is a war off good and evil,i Know which side I’m on do you?God bless you all and know that I am he, i am the one all there is and all there ever will be….. Say that to your self Eveready and night .I love you all,my brothers ans sisters.love thy self!peace……

      Comment by dannylee | December 2, 2012 | Reply

  2. Denise,

    Thanks for your comment!

    John 10:34-35 is quoting Psalms 82:6. When we examine the Hebrew word for “gods” in Psalm 82:6, using Strong’s Concordance, the Hebrew word is אלהים (elohim) and this has a Strong Number of H430. The Hebrew lexicon of Strong’s concordance (this is a standard reference tool for Biblical Hebrew) gives the possible meanings:

    1) (plural)
    a) rulers, judges
    b) divine ones
    c) angels
    d) gods

    2) (plural intensive – singular meaning)
    a) god, goddess
    b) godlike one
    c) works or special possessions of God
    d) the (true) God
    e) God

    From the context of Psalm 82 the correct meaning is (1)(a) i.e. rulers, judges:

    Psalm 82
    1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.
    2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
    3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
    4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
    5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
    6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
    7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
    8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

    We are called “son of God” because when we are born again we have a spirit regenerated by God, but this does not confer to us any of the characteristics of God (omnipotence, omniprescence, etc). Entities created by God are called “sons of God” in the Bible e.g. angels, Adam, born-again believer.

    God bless,
    George

    Comment by georgeamarcelo | June 5, 2008 | Reply

  3. Then is it wrong to say that we are gods, not Big G Gods,
    but that because we are created of God, and made in his image, that we are like him, but that we serve and honour him ,
    who is the the creater of us, big G God now and forever, as we rule and reign with christ, our comander and boss, God is our father, we his children, big G God ad his litle g gods children, sons and daugthers, and one day we will be like him, because we see him as he is, praise be to God amen.

    Comment by Memrme | October 10, 2008 | Reply

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    Comment by Bible Verse | November 2, 2008 | Reply

  5. What about these scriptures:

    Ps 82:6-8

    6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

    7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

    8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
    KJV

    John 10:34-38

    34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

    35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

    36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

    37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.

    38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
    KJV

    I just realized some beat me to these scriptures. Huh. We are little gods and his sons and as soon as we realize it and take authority and dominion over this earth, we will be able to help Him establish His kingdom at a more rapid pace.

    Comment by Tim Richmond | December 11, 2008 | Reply

    • I already addressed these scriptures in the comments earlier. You need to look at the Hebrew word elohim (translated gods) in its context. Elohim has many meanings depending on its context. In this case, the word is better translated judge. See my earlier comments for more information.

      Comment by georgeamarcelo | December 15, 2008 | Reply

      • If the god in Psalms 82 means judge, then why did Jesus refer back to it in John 10? Jesus was defending the fact that he was God. The Jews were about to kill him because he being a man made himself equal to God. Then he said even their own law said we are all gods. Psalms 82 also says not only are we gods, but children of the most high. In Genesis chapter 1 it goes to a great deal of trouble explaining that fish are made as other fish, cattle are made as other cattle, birds are made as other birds, etc. Then it says man is made as God. The point is clear. Children of fish are fish, children of cattle are cattle, and children of God are gods. As someone already said, read these scripture in context. As far as Elohim meaning judge instead of god. No where in scripture is Elohim used as the word Judge. Read it in context with all the scripture and it is clear the author is referring to a deity or an angelic being.

        Comment by steve | May 26, 2010

      • The context of Psalm 82 is clearly judge, and for cases where it is also translated as such, you can refer to a Strong’s Concordance. For example, Exodus 22:8-9. In the article I also explain the Hebrew meaning of the word translated as image, and that is also very clear. It is dangerous to attribute deity to oneself, since that is what Satan did, and we are not to follow Satan. So again, I urge you to pray for guidance from the Holy Spirit, to look at the meanings of the word in context with the message of the Bible as a whole.

        Comment by georgeamarcelo | May 26, 2010

      • I stand corrected. Elohim is used 5 times in scripture as judge. Elohim is used over 2500 times in the old testament and only 5 times is in translated judge. You still didn’t address why Jesus used Psalms 82 to justify his deity. As far as the definition of image goes, one of the definitions you provided from the Hebrew is resemblance. NO we are not an exact copy of God. Just like my son is not an exact copy of me. My son does resemble me and may grow more like me as time goes by. We are never called adults of God. We are children of God. We are still growing up. But, as stated earlier, a child of a fish is still a fish.

        Comment by steve | May 26, 2010

      • I think Jesus was playing with words with the Pharisees. His deity is better proven by the miracles He performed. Of course, we are children of God, if we are saved through faith. However, entities created directly by God are called children of God (or sons of God) in the Bible, which is why angels are also called such. We resemble God, but we do not share all of Gods attributes, for example, we are not omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, etc.

        Comment by georgeamarcelo | May 27, 2010

      • I appreciate your responding to me, but I don’t fully agree with you. I don’t think Jesus was just playing with words. I will say I agree that we are not omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, etc. He is our Father God and just as I have attributes that my children don’t share and some they do share, so our Father God has some attributes we share and some we don’t. Also Jesus divinity as proved by miracles is fine. He said the works he did we would do and greater because he was going back to the Father. When doing a word study from Strongs concordance, god, or elohim traces back to the word strength or strong one. Strongs # 430 to 433 to 410 to 352 Hebrew dictionary of Strongs. So from that definition as “gods” we don’t have to be omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, etc. We can be strong. Now let the weak say I am strong.

        Comment by steve | May 27, 2010

      • That is a reasonable point of view. Basically we are like gods since we are children of God, without sharing the attributes unique to God. That is OK, and very different from Satan’s proposition to Eve.

        Comment by georgeamarcelo | May 27, 2010

      • Elohim is an Aramaic word and it is a plural one. Elohim (Hebrew/Aramic) is derived from El (god) + Loah (goddess) and is made plural. It is sometimes understood to be Eloah (goddess) made plural through the masculine ending of “im”. Your exchanging the plural word Elohim (original text) for the singular word “God” as well as rulers or judges is to plant a seed of such distortion that what Jesus really said cannot be seen or understood. In the same way, Jehovah is a plural word derived from Jah (god/male/penis) and Hovha (goddess/female/womb). These explain the use of the singular and the plural in Genesis 1 when men were made in the image of the god(s).

        But these are words that predate Jesus, so let’s look at what Jesus said:

        Jesus said that ALL that you ask for is given, if you believe that it is. This alone makes you a god. If you don’t like what you have, then look at what you have been asking for and ask for something better. If you would be safe, then manifest safety. If you are hungry, manifest food. Ask for it believing that it is already here and it shall be given.

        Now take the idea of prayer a step further. John 16:23-24 (KJV) reads in part: Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. 24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.

        But if you go to the pre-Nicean sacred texts and read them in Aramaic, you will find the words “All things that you ask straightly, directlt … from inside my name, you will be given. So far you have not done this. Ask without hidden motive and be surrounded by your answer. Be enveloped by what you desire, that your gladness be full.

        Here, in the earlier text, Jesus is telling you how to employ a method of prayer that works, as many are now discovering thanks to videos like “The Secret”, “What The Bleep – Down the Rabbit Hole”, and Law of Attraction. This method of prayer, that does not depend on words, is changing the lives of many and causing many to recognize that they are like gods – able to create and co-create. To understand what jesus was talking about, you have to distance yourself from the teachings of Paul.

        Some gross distortions like these have destroyed christianity. The KJV (1611) is largely responsible for this. Consider the impact that these changes have made upon the teachings of christianity.

        Koine Greek – the original language of the gospels speaks of:
        Hamartia: Acting in ignorance causing harm. It was replaced by sin.
        Metanoia: Change your way of thinking. It was replaced by repent.
        Metamellamai: Change your way of emoting. It was replaced by repent
        Gehenna: The garbage dump outside of the city gates. It was replaced by hell – with its fire and brimstone.

        Just fix these few words and you have a man saying that we are gods, and we are still part of the greater god. (we are children of god, and that we are gods – god is in us and we are in god). There is no eternal damnation, but there are errors caused by ignorance, and those who live in ignorance live wretched lives, just as those living in the garbage dump do. Do not see your worthlessness, because if you do, you will see it in others (project it upon them) and you will manifest things that cause you to see that which you have asked for. Instead, see your perfection. When you can do that, you will see the perfection of others, and you will be able to become one-with god. Until you do that, you cannot.

        Jesus said that the kingdom of heaven is within you, and that you should trust no one who tells you otherwise. If its in heaven, it is here right now. Those who manifest our realities according to our intended desires know this. We know that it’s not up in the sky or where people go after they die. It’s a place of perfect peace and incredible power. The magnificence of it is a certainty of peace and abundance. Can one who is at peace be violent? Can one who is at peace lie? Can one who is at peace be angry?

        Jesus is being discredited by christianity and it is so sad to watch. Take the first beatitude. Jesus said Blessed (of god, with god, walking with god) are the poor in spirit (those less enlightned than you) for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Jesus doesn’t say, “Cursed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of hell”, yet that’s exactly what christianity teaches.

        Jesus said love others unconditionally, do not use violence in self-defense – use peace, Fear not, fear not evil, resist not evil. Why do christans shy away from words that promise safety and abundance? Peace is a power that WORKS!

        Christ is not violent, is not angry, and is not dishonest. To become one with christ, simply learn what peace is and then be it. As you strengthen your ability to remain within it, you will begin learning much that you do not now comprehend as existing.

        You quote John 3:16. If you study the teachings of Jesus, and contemplate them while in the heaven within, you will understand that Jesus was not speaking of himself when he said that God gave his only begotten son. He was speaking of the universe. Jesus wasn’t the first Christian. He was a Pantheist.

        Also, if you read the ancient texts in either Aramaic or koine greek, and read the balcony scene, it will become obvious to you that Jesus never died on the cross, which is why christian scholars are jumping all over themselves to get agreement to change Jesus’ name to Jesus Barabbas even though the first use of the word as a name doesn’t appear until the 2nd century. If Jesus died on the cross, the he was a liar and wasn’t able to protect himself.

        I myself have faced imminent death and used peace to diffuse the situation, cause the aggressor to back up, ask himself what he was doing, and walk away scratching his head. Others who understand what Jesus was talking about do the same.

        Christianity has lost its way. You certainly are a god. You can refuse to direct your power if you want, and you can call your god-given powers evil, but as you do to others, you most certainly DO do to yourself AND God. As you judge, you are judged. If you call Jesus a liar, you call god a liar. You and I are equal to Jesus as soon as we choose to believe that we can be.

        Comment by Gail | June 28, 2012

  6. im not sure being as the last comment seems to have been years ago at this point but i feel inspired to ask the question on the phrase “Is it not written i said ye are gods?” my question isnt what ye are gods means but rather is it written? where is it written? what book of the old testiment has this phrase that jesus claims to be quoting because i cant find it. and rather then debate hebrew linguistics we should be debating where was it written?

    Comment by adam bourke | March 13, 2010 | Reply

  7. nevermind i found it at another site if anyone listening its in psalm82;6.and jesus quoted it in john10 thanks for listening tho but ive found my answer, im still learning

    Comment by adam bourke | March 13, 2010 | Reply

  8. When are you ‘little gods’ going to get off your asses and put a stop to the abortion of millions of innocent babies? You people sit around spouting your silly pious shit and do absolutely nothing to better this world.

    Religion is the poison that will eventually bring in the NWO while you idiots pat yourselves on the back and wait for your non-existent jayzuz to return for your sorry worthless butts. You make me sick.

    If christianity was as good and powerful as you lunatics claim it to be, there would be no baby killing nor child molesting because millions of people claiming to have the power of god in them would not allow such. You are all liars and greedy dogs.

    Yahweh was a bloodthirsty child killing and child raping monster who would be in front of a damn firing squad if he was around today.

    Comment by Reb | March 26, 2010 | Reply

    • Rom 9:18 Therefore hath He mercy on whom He will have mercy, and whom He will he hardeneth.

      Comment by georgeamarcelo | March 26, 2010 | Reply

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  10. You have compared God creating mankind in his image, to a statute of a man, or ones image being portrayed on television. To you I ask.. Would you allow a statue of yourself to raise your children? Of course not. A statue is a powerless image. We are not. God has given us dominion over all that he has created. Which proves that we are not lifeless statues. The bible says that God dwells in us. So lets re cap. We are made in his image, External. The spirit of God dwells in us, internal. From the external image, to the spirit within, WE ARE GOD… PLEASE SEND ME AN E MAIL IF YOU HAVE A RESPONSE. Mchristopher757@yahoo.com

    Comment by Chris | January 4, 2011 | Reply

    • Perhaps your issue is best discussed with God. Pray for discernment about this issue.

      Comment by georgeamarcelo | January 15, 2011 | Reply

  11. You have still not answered Steve’s question… He said, “why would Jesus use Pslams 82 as a point of reference for his deity?” Your response was Jesus was playing with words, and how his deity is better explained by his miracles. With all due respect, who are you to say what a “BETTER” explanation would be. The fact of the matter is that Jesus did use Psalms as a reference point for his DEITY. Thats what HE thought would be “BEST”

    Comment by Chris | January 4, 2011 | Reply

    • You have opinions too, I see.

      Comment by georgeamarcelo | January 15, 2011 | Reply

    • Sometimes we forget how Hebrew was written without vowels and the Bible was written originally without punctuation marks which sometimes changes our understanding of the original meaning of the context..such as in Psalms 82 what if we read the Words as we are Gods..meaning we belong to God?

      Comment by mammyof4 | March 3, 2012 | Reply

      • Commentators..lol trys to sway our thoughts..

        Comment by mammyof4 | March 3, 2012

  12. P.S. I think Steve somewhat backed down from a valid point. That never received a scriptual rebuttal… Stick to your guns Steve!!!

    Comment by Chris | January 4, 2011 | Reply

    • I just noticed this article is entitled “Does the Bible say We are God?” Not “We are Gods”. When God is used in the singular and capitalized in the Bible it is referring to the Father God. So no, the Bible does not say “we are God”. It does say, however, we are god’s. As his offspring we are young gods and have a small “g”. We will never be “The God”. We are, however, his children and thus “gods”. Lower case “g”. Also, just as a lion cub is still a lion but not yet able to do all an adult lion can, so to are we young gods. Still growing into our abilities and not as mature, or skillful as our Father God. In lion prides there is only one king of the pride. He is the strongest lion. God the Father is our prides king. We will never be stronger than him. He will always be king. Still, even the young lions are very powerful.

      Comment by steve | January 16, 2011 | Reply

      • Maybe it is best to use a different word than God for we are still creatures, a new creation for sure, and Bride of Christ of course. There is less danger of errors in application, and it is dangerous to have an idea that we have attributes that God has, other than visual resemblance. I will have Jesus Himself get the final word:

        Luk 14:8 When thou art bidden of any man to a wedding, sit not down in the highest room; lest a more honourable man than thou be bidden of him;
        Luk 14:9 And he that bade thee and him come and say to thee, Give this man place; and thou begin with shame to take the lowest room.
        Luk 14:10 But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee.
        Luk 14:11 For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

        Comment by georgeamarcelo | January 18, 2011

  13. I did not exalt myself. Gods word did. James 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up. What Gods word says about us is so incredible that my mind wants to reject it. It says I am a god. No way that can’t be right. So to be humble would be to ignore what my mind says and accept his word as true. To be humble is to lower your own ways and accept the way of another. I put my own false humility aside and humbly accept what Gods word says about me. No matte how fantastic it is.

    Comment by steve | January 19, 2011 | Reply

    • And in response to your scripture in Luke. We did sit at the lowest seat. God asked us to sit at the front next to him. With your analogy you would have us ignore God and continue to sit in the lowest seat.

      Comment by steve | January 19, 2011 | Reply

      • If you are certain that God invited you to be god too then take your seat, but be very sure, or the reverse may happen.

        Comment by georgeamarcelo | January 20, 2011

  14. We are not invited to be God as in the one and only All Powerful Creator of the universe. We are born gods, as in of the same species, so to speak, as our father, the Father God. We will never take his place as the ruler of the universe. We will always be his offspring. No arrogance involved. Not kicking him out. Just fulfilling the role he has given us. To be humble means to lower yourself. To humble yourself to the Father God is to take what his word says no matter how much my intellect rebels against it. False humility says,” I can’t be a god no matter what God’s word says.” What may seem like arrogance to you is really humbleness. I accept what the bible says about being gods no matter how I or others feel about it. I can’t try to explain it away because it makes me or others uncomfortable. I hope you and others understand. If not, my heart still says I must go with what he says. I have spent years in study and prayer about this. I pray you do the same.

    Comment by steve | January 20, 2011 | Reply

    • By the way, I’ve been an ordained minister for 15 years. A christian for 25 years.

      Comment by steve | January 20, 2011 | Reply

      • It will be a fun party! Hope to see you there. :-)

        Comment by georgeamarcelo | January 20, 2011

    • Steve, and those who agree with his understanding of us being “gods”, you may need to more carefully examine the scriptures in context before drawing dangerous conclusions which lead to false doctrines. Many false teachers use these passages of scripture out of context to apply a certain deity to themselves and the people of God to further defrock and deceive the flock to further their prosperity doctrine. I know you say you’ve been an ordained minister for 15 years and a christian for 25 years, but that is more of an indictment than something to be commended for if you are still drawing non-biblical conclusions that could be detrimental to the people you are shepherding. And I say that out of love although it might sound harsh. With that being said, here is what Jesus meant when referencing Psalms 82 in full context.

      gods will die like men?
      Now look at Psalm 82:

      1 God stands in the congregation of the mighty; He judges among the gods.
      2 How long will you judge unjustly, And show partiality to the wicked? Selah
      3 Defend the poor and fatherless; Do justice to the afflicted and needy.
      4 Deliver the poor and needy; Free them from the hand of the wicked.
      5 They do not know, nor do they understand; They walk about in darkness; All the foundations of the earth are unstable.
      6 I said, “You are gods, And all of you are children of the Most High.
      7 But you shall die like men, And fall like one of the princes.”

      This passage requires a little more thought, but it is still quite clear. In the context of this passage it is clear that the ‘gods’ are not called so because they are divine, but because they are set up to be judges. God established His leadership to judge and do justice among the people. This has nothing to do with divinity. We know this because God follows up by saying, “You are gods and children of the Most High, but you shall die like men”. Look at the entire context of this passage. God is judging the judges He has ordained because they became arrogant and unjust. In stead of using the power God had given them to defend the helpless and needy, they used it for greed and gain. They afflicted the needy and gave favor to the wicked. Jesus used this same passage against the Pharisees. They thought they were above the people. The passage declares that these ‘gods’ are wicked, without understanding, walking in darkness, have an unstable foundation, and they will die like all men do. This doesn’t sound much like the claims of divinity the ‘Christian’ false teachers and other religions proclaim it to be.

      “gods” are an abomination
      There is one last reference to gods I would like to bring to light. Look at Isaiah 41

      20 That they may see and know, And consider and understand together, That the hand of the LORD has done this, And the Holy One of Israel has created it.
      21 ” Present your case,” says the LORD. “Bring forth your strong reasons,” says the King of Jacob.
      22 “Let them bring forth and show us what will happen; Let them show the former things, what they were, That we may consider them, And know the latter end of them; Or declare to us things to come.
      23 Show the things that are to come hereafter, That we may know that you are gods; Yes, do good or do evil, That we may be dismayed and see it together.
      24 Indeed you are nothing, And your work is nothing; He who chooses you is an abomination.

      In this passage, God is challenging those who call themselves gods. God challenges them, if they are gods, present your case. Show us what will happen in the future. Show us the past. Declare what is to come. What are the purposes of God? They should know since they are gods. God challenges them to show their power since they think they are gods. Then God follows up by saying, “you are nothing; your work is nothing; and he who chooses you is an abomination”. That is a very divisive statement. God declares that anyone who chooses these who claim to be gods is an abomination to Himself, the only true God.

      Comment by Allegron | July 7, 2012 | Reply

  15. Upon studing Psalms 82 for upcoming class, wow! Did I open a “can of worms”! Wound up reading commentaries from Bible scholars on the net and in my own books of reference. All because of the “I have called you all gods” Even tho Jesus said “In your own law it says that men are gods….” Where does it say “in the law” that men are gods? From reading all the above references, I accept that Pslms 82 is referring to Judges/magistrates(gods) but still wonder why Jesus said that this is in the law? Any help?????

    Comment by Ramona Greene | January 25, 2011 | Reply

    • I think Jesus was referring to the Torah, which includes the Psalms, as He was quoting the Psalm.

      Comment by georgeamarcelo | January 29, 2011 | Reply

  16. It’s seems to me that way too much emphasis is placed on Elohim. Elohim is used to describe many things besides just Yahweh. Even Satan is the Elohim of this world. Yahweh is the name of God and Elohim is his office. Yahweh the lord(Elohim) is one. He is God all by himself. The greatest reference concerning Jesus’ divinity is when they came for Him in the garden and He called himself “I am that I am” and the soldiers fell on there face. Just remember this: we will always be the worshipper and never be the object of worship.

    Comment by James McFadden | January 28, 2011 | Reply

  17. ok simple we where created by GOD in his image/likeness psalm 82v6 whole chapter of john so on explain to u that u are gods satan deceived man into beleiving u are not a god and to this day we beleve satan over God!! jesus knew who he was therefore did not need to prove he was god .
    us/man want proof and sighns of things jesus did not
    evan when angels came down and interbread with man they made the nephilim wich is
    half man half god look it up in scripture in exodus it is there
    just like mythology tells the same story half man half god
    the elect catholics believe that they are gods as well altho chose to keep u knowing this truth look in the vatican they have all the ancient babylon relics altars so on
    they chose to evan keep the book of enoch out of the bible why?? read it u well no, if u still refuse to beleive u are not a god or his offspring there is no hope for u and u are not of his flock!!!
    my sheep no my voice it is written can u understand the shepaerd

    Comment by rob/sonofgod | February 27, 2011 | Reply

  18. jesus also sasid multiple time father i pray that just as u and i are one i pray the they would be 1 with us!.
    now lastly go to genesis when GOD created the world he spoke it happend ! simple now read the bible u well see OVER AND OVER WHEN MAN SPEAKS IT BECOMES SO just read job the only reason his family died and all the misfortunes happen to him is becuse he refused to beleive he had the same power as GOD thefore talking the hedge down . u well read over and over again in scripture that misfortunes and bad thing happen when hummans pray tand say god please dont allow this to happen or please protect me u are already protected and are the maker of youre own idle words the most powerfull weapon on earth is the TONGUE!! speak it it happend look
    1.thoughts
    2.speak
    3.actions
    4.completion
    try this in real life u well have whatever u want prove me wrong i bet u cant i studied the bible and other religions/science / phisycs all my life this is true prove me wrong and i well never post here again if i am right i well be back to teach u all

    Comment by rob/sonofgod | February 27, 2011 | Reply

    • Isa 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like Me,

      Comment by georgeamarcelo | March 12, 2011 | Reply

      • All of these are Eph 5: 1. New American Standard Bible (©1995)
        Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children;

        King James Bible
        Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

        American King James Version
        Be you therefore followers of God, as dear children;

        American Standard Version
        Be ye therefore imitators of God, as beloved children;

        Douay-Rheims Bible
        Be ye therefore followers of God, as most dear children;

        Darby Bible Translation
        Be ye therefore imitators of God, as beloved children,

        English Revised Version
        Be ye therefore imitators of God, as beloved children;

        Webster’s Bible Translation
        Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

        World English Bible
        Be therefore imitators of God, as beloved children.

        Young’s Literal Translation
        Become, then, followers of God, as children beloved,

        Comment by steve | March 12, 2011

    • Rom 8:14 Those who are led by the /Spirit of God are the Sons of God..When you speak what the Spirit says ,then God can create..prov 18:21 says life and death are in the power of the words spoken! We can let God or open the door to the enemy (curse) choose this day life or death !! Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.what we believe we receive.Everything we say we must be very aware of what will be the results! The enemy(devil) is very crafty,even in the little things we say..such as that kills me,you make me sick,,you are stupid, I am losing my memory,etc.. The list goes on and on..even the world knows that if you talk negative to your child such as, you will never be anything! What happens? Words are powerful! We will give an account of every word we have spoken..

      Comment by mammyof4 | March 3, 2012 | Reply

    • amen! the first scripture that came to my mind also! praise G-d Almighty!

      Comment by Le Suong Cina | June 7, 2013 | Reply

  19. you people pick the verses that fit instead of looking at all verses! god is our parent we are all sons of god! there for we are demi gods. we are gods as our father is god. he gave us restriction. you dont give a child parental rights!! time and time again when a child tries to act like an adult they continuosly make the wrong decisions.we continuosly are reincarnated to learn lessons. we are about to become adults. the hardest thing to accept is the truth. it is easier to believe our reality than the truth.the truth seems so magical that it cant be real,but just in case your wrong you hang on every word as if it where the way it is written. God himself and jesus tried to tell us several times we are gods.sons of our father. in the bible many times the serpent was mistaken for god! do you really think the devil wants us to know this? no! he wants us to believe its harrassy. we are to pre occupied with troubles of the earth to realize we have been lied to and manipulated! I suggest you reread the bible with your eyes open. understand we call angels aliens in our ignorence. angels are our brothers and sisiters that have already evolved.wake up!!

    Comment by manonfireb4u | March 20, 2011 | Reply

  20. Yes, Jesus was right. You are gods of knowing how to do evil. The meaning god means master and Almighty and powerful, and the pharisees were offended because they understood that Jesus try to say to them, you are gods or master of doing so much evil. I do not believe we are gods. Adam and Eve partook the forbidden fruit which it is the knowledge of good and evil where Satan told them that they should not die and become like gods. This is something that God hated it and cast them away from the Garden of Eden. Because they sinned and ate the forbidden fruit which is the knowledge of good and evil. That’s why there is so much sin because they know how to to good and evil because it is the godhood whom Satan led them. Remember, Satan sought to usurp the Throne of God and exalted above The Lord of Hosts and opposed against God and Satan said: I will exalt my throne to the north and I will be like the Most High and the Almighty. That’s the doom where angels cried for his doom and the fall of Lucifer where God overthrown him and he was cast out and was the Devil and Satan forever and ever.

    Comment by Melvin | May 15, 2011 | Reply

  21. The Bible clearly teaches that there is but ONE god, of which is given many names, Elohim being but one. As Christians, we know god by the name of Jesus, for he is the only human who can actually claim to be a god, but not just any god, THE ONE AND ONLY GOD, the god identified in the Bible as Elohim, etc.
    We are only made in His image, but even resembling Him doesn’t make us Him. Accepting Christ into our hearts and living according to His word makes us like him, but it doesn’t make us Him equally in every respect. The term Christian means to be christ-like, and nothing more.

    Comment by Jeremy Noe | August 23, 2011 | Reply

  22. The Bible clearly relates us as being gods. In the beginning, God was a spirit being! Then he manifested that spirit in flesh (Jesus) and became as one of us. This was in order to see what we go through and to be scapegoat for sin. So God’s spirit (nature, essence….) was in the man Jesus Christ, making Jesus God. Finally, we are told that once JC leaves this earth, he will come back to us as the Comforter (God’s Spirit in us) to help us in our daily walk. We would then be able to do all that JC did on this earth and he even says we will be able to do more. So if you are able to deduce this line of thought. We should be God in the same sense that Jesus was God. i know this is a crazy thought to most Christians but if you see it for what it is and not what you have learned in the past, it becomes very evident that we are either gods or we are living an illusion of our own making.

    Comment by Chad | August 29, 2011 | Reply

    • You need to be careful with the interpretation of the Bible text. See what the context is, and do not take a verse in isolation, and seek guidance from the Holy Spirit at all times.

      Comment by georgeamarcelo | September 2, 2011 | Reply

      • Is Christianity diverse because God is diverse? What is the guiding spirit in that?

        Comment by Liriel | September 9, 2011

  23. I see people explaining the meaning of Psalm 82 and that the true meaning should be “rulers” or “judges” and not “Gods”. But I am sure there have been done some serious research around what word to use in the context. Also, a serious problem occurs for those who believe Jesus is Gods only son. When the Jews confront Jesus with his claim to be the son of God, he quote Psalm 82 to advocate his statement. The word Jesus use in the original Greek copy of John (10:34-35) is “θεοί” (Gods), and not “rulers” or “judges”. If you disagree, you will not only claim that Jesus is wrong in his interpretation of Psalm 82, but also say that he is NOT the son of God, but rather a ruler or a judge. Looking at the context in John, we clearly see that Jesus has provoked the Jews by claiming to be God, and that the word “Gods” IS the correct term in Psalm 82. Jesus goes further and explains Psalm 82 and say “…If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came -and the Scripture cannot be broken-“. And what does he mean by that? Looking at the ministry of Jesus in John, Jesus did not only die for our sins, but he also came to baptise with the Holy Spirit (John 1:33), the spirit of God. To see a more complete interpretation of his ministry, read 1 Corinthians 12. Then ask yourself, where are the spiritual gifts among Christian followers today?

    The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed (Romans 8:19)

    Comment by Liriel | September 9, 2011 | Reply

  24. Pls research the scripture and ask the Hholy spirit for interpretationb4 u start disputing things.John10:34-r5 says it.

    Comment by befe | March 15, 2012 | Reply

  25. This whole conversations is ignorant…because the bible did not say that we were God but that we are gods…. meaning that we are one with God and God is one with us….it’s like we are the charges but God is the detonator or that we are small replicas of God with limited capacity where as God has unlimited capacity….it’s just that simple…

    Comment by inikoabErvin Wainwright | July 2, 2012 | Reply

  26. Here’s my take on this issue: At various points in the scriptures, Jesus speaks (1) as God, (2) to God, and (3) about God. He was able to speak as God with confidence because he first died to his egoic, limited, false self. Then (and only then) was he able to genuinely manifest his divine and infinite Self. At that point one could consider that he was consciously lived by God, but I’m not too certain about that, lacking first-hand experience.

    There are two important additional points to consider here. First, Jesus displayed an attitude of humble surrender to his Abba, Beloved.

    When one first has intuition of the divine within oneself, there is a tendency to let the ego (our finite selves, our idea of our self) to parade around as God. That’s where Gail’s misguided belief in “quaffing”, the idea behind The Secret and What the Bleep Do We Know, comes from. Your ego does not create your reality unless you are delusional or schizophrenic. In surrender to the Almighty, Jesus recognized that he was God in his deepest self, AND that God was also bigger than him.

    The second thing to consider is that Jesus was the example, not the exception. Everything that Jesus did to know God more fully, we can also do today. You can say all you like that he was Divine and we are not. The simple fact of the matter is that we can follow these steps and recreate the experience. Before you can say anything meaningful on whether it works or whether it’s true, you must first perform the experiment and then analyze the data. Otherwise it’s pure conjecture.

    Now if you say that it’s wrong to test it out, I will say that such is bad science. You don’t slap together a house and rely only on faith to hold it together. How much more important are the matters of your soul?

    Now this is beside the point but I would like to say to Gail that psychological projection is essentially the art of first denying your imperfections, and then pretending that it’s someone else who is messed up. You say to ignore your own imperfection to get out of the situation when the ignoring and denial is exactly what caused it!
    I only mention this because owning your fears and flaws is the only way to truly know their limitations and grow past them. When you stop fighting your own mind, you will find peace where once was much distress.

    Comment by TK | September 16, 2012 | Reply

  27. I believe God`s word which From HIS OWN mout, says we are gods. Iam a god for His glory and by His Spirit i live His life. Apostle J.Z.L

    Comment by Jacob Zenega Lukhova | October 18, 2012 | Reply

  28. It is the Truth, We are god’s. Its very Simple and easy to understand there is no Blasphemy because the scriptures are full of reference to it to the point were were even call heirs to the throne. Dogs and cats which are created are not heirs to the throne and nor are they called “Children of the Most High”. but
    Jesus Quoting in john 10. from Psalm 82. makes it very clear who we are and he himself was almost stoned for his Blasphemy and making himself equal to God. Then we are called the “Temples of the Living god” and told that “the same spirit that raised jesus from the dead now lives inside of us”. Satan came to us and twisted the truth by using the truth of our true identities against us.
    The teachings of the mainstream church have all come through Roman and so have our scriptures been hacked and pulled apart taking from us the “KNOWLEDGE” of God which God clearly warns us that ” for lack of Knowledge his people are killed” and that we will grovel and be killed like men because we dont understand”. Were called to be “Imitators of god as dear children” also to have the “renewed minds of christ” and on top of all this were told that “we shall be like him when we see him”. Modern Christianity has been twisted so as to fit the agenda of Government which is to keep people bound and enslaved in there minds so We can never walk in the fullness of who We are ie: our identities in christ so that the kingdom of God WITHIN YOU can never be manifested onto the earth keeping the power away from the People. They Killed our Messiah because he was empowering people with divine knowledge and that would mean that they could never control man.

    Repent and take up your positions as god within god. your true essence.

    Comment by ca2575 | March 20, 2013 | Reply

  29. If, as flesh and blood, we are called little gods, it is by the sheer will and mercy of our loving Father God, Daddy, Abba …He sustains us, even through eternity, the created has no power over his/her life, we can only submit to His kind and loving will, be possessed of the Holy Spirit like an unassuming clay vessel allowing itself to be filled with The Living Water, residing, flouriishing, in the shadow of the Almighty!
    >>Isaiah 46:8-10 (NKJV)
    “Remember this, and show yourselves men;
    Recall to mind, O you transgressors.
    Remember the former things of old,
    For I am God, and there is no other;
    I am God, and there is none like Me,
    Declaring the end from the beginning,
    And from ancient times things that are not yet done,
    Saying, ‘My counsel shall stand,
    And I will do all My pleasure,’<>5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. 9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Phil. 2<>1 Timothy says – 11 “But you, O man of God, flee these things and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, gentleness. 12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, to which you were also called and have confessed the good confession in the presence of many witnesses. 13 I urge you in the sight of God who gives life to all things, and before Christ Jesus who witnessed the good confession before Pontius Pilate, 14 that you keep this commandment without spot, blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ’s appearing, 15 which He will manifest in His own time, He who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16 who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen. 17 Command those who are rich in this present age not to be haughty, nor to trust in uncertain riches but in the living God, who gives us richly all things to enjoy. 18 Let them do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to give, willing to share, 19 storing up for themselves a good foundation for the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life..”<>2Thess 2: 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God” <> 1 Timothy 3: 15 but if I am delayed, I write so that you may know how you ought to conduct yourself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.”<< Yes, we are flesh, we've been justified by the Spirit, seen by angels, and will be received up in glory at the great day of the harvest, His second coming (not when we individually die) …but noone in the world will be saved believing on us, rather, on the One of Whom we testify, our great and almighty, kind and loving, Saviour and Friend, Lord Jesus.

    The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all.

    Comment by Le Suong Cina | June 7, 2013 | Reply

    • Wow! Excellent, ‘the mystery of godliness’ – I thank Le Suong Cina for explaining this mystery, and many others who have contributed to clarify this scepticism that many had. Thank you all. May God’s love and his infinite grace lead us to our glory to come.

      Comment by A.V. YOVOYAN | June 24, 2013 | Reply

  30. All of who read this please read the Torah and please don’t and nothing there is one almighty no one else his angels our his messengers Satan is one of them don’t focus on no one else. Read and study Torah go talk to a good Rabbi.

    Comment by Frank Morris | November 16, 2013 | Reply


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